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in a position -- it's been a pretty awful episode for the city of london, a lot of big advisers, jpmorgan, credit suisse, some of the lawyers, price waterhouse coopers, a lot of people who are on the board of bumi, all of them have tarnished reputations as a result of this scandal. >> whose fault is that? >> that's a good question. and there's still a bitter takeover by the panel going on as to exactly who knew what when the fundamental issues about funds that have gone missing from the company before it was brought to the london market. >> and nat rothschild has a lot of complaints about that money. the question is whether he knew about it before he brought this company to the london market, anyway. >> he calls the current management team a disaster. the company is uninvestble. we have to get out the cancer, he says. >> bumi has made a lot of commitments as to what they will do if this vote is won. they certainly sent a message that the current chairman will step down, the backrie family have offered to buy out half the company in return for their own shares in bumi. so in theory, at lea
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